CJ SPILLER GETS ROBBED

Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 6:19 pm Posted in football, news 42 Comments

Results of the bullshit ~~popularity/media hypefest~~ Heisman Trophy voting are in and the five players getting invites to NYC are Texas’s Colt McCoy, Stanford’s Toby Gerhart, Nebraska’s Ndamukong Suh, Alabama’s Mark Ingram, and Florida’s Tim Tebow. No CJ Spiller. What a fucking joke. It’s an insult to CJ at best.

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1Clem on Dec 7, 2009 at 6:31 pm:

JESUS H CHRIST!! WHAT HOLY HELL OF A SHITBAG HIT CLEMSON THESE PAST TWO WEEKS!!! Seriously, there is nothing left to this football season. The football…to me, is dead.
2brandonlee81 on Dec 7, 2009 at 6:32 pm:

If Sakerlina hadn’t shut CJ and the entire offense down, AND Clemson hadn’t lost the ACCCG he would’ve more’n likely been included.

Your team’s performance affects your personal perception.

It’s not fair. It’s just a fact.
3Ms. Congeniality on Dec 7, 2009 at 6:35 pm:

Tim Tebow sure did a good job representing the sport when he bawling his eyes out and refusing to shake hands with Alabama players like a God damned bratty 9 year old after shitting himself and otherwise doing nothing else for 60 minutes. I’m sure he was just distracted by the though of all of those little Phillipino boys who were going to go to hell because he hadn’t cut the ends off of their peckers yet, that’s why he threw that interception in the fourth quarter. Think of the children!

Glad to see him get the invite. Best college football player of all time. OF ALL TIME.
4Chili on Dec 7, 2009 at 6:42 pm:

@2 True
5thedabokoolaid on Dec 7, 2009 at 7:08 pm:

i have lost all respect for the heisman, it is a pretty boy contest. after that performance saturday, freakin TEBOW got an invite? he was cryin like a little girl!
6Willy Mac on Dec 7, 2009 at 7:20 pm:

This is complete bullshit though. At first I felt that it was kind of deserved as he had a bit of a dry spell at the end of the year. That was until I saw the stats that Hallidega posted in the forums and it made me fucking irate: http://www.block-c.com/forums/showthread.php?p=16815#poststop
7Daniel on Dec 7, 2009 at 7:55 pm:

Really unfortunate for CJ to come back and have all of the goals he came back for within his grasp only to slip away. Hopefully he can at least get a bowl victory against the MIGHTY SEC KENTUCKY WILDCATS. Hate it for the guy as he really couldn’t have done anything more this year.
8Navy Chief on Dec 7, 2009 at 8:07 pm:

I joke allot here, but last Saturday hurt bad. I get excited when we win and am usually numb to losing because I am used to it. Even when we lose to Scar, I know we will spank them the next year. Not so necessarily with an ACC championship, hard to get to for us, there may not be a next year for that. This is just another slap in the face. It seems like it happens to us this way, we get up for a little while and then start getting one bitch slap right after the other and I don’t have a good feeling about the shitty bowl game either. FUCK!
9DixieTiger2008 on Dec 7, 2009 at 8:32 pm:

Boys, college football like everything else in life is now controlled by the media. Politics brothers, politics. We should all focus our energy on self-determination. We are too dependent in so many different areas. This was the nail in the coffin for me at least.

I love Clemson (what it used to be…not just the athletics). Our world has changed. Let’s move on…

Sorry for getting all political on everyone. Go Tigers!
10dwight_clark87 on Dec 7, 2009 at 8:39 pm:

Horse.

Shit.

Horseshit.

Ingram, OK. Suh is a badass. McCoy…meh. Gerhart is a one year wonder. Then we come to Tebow, who has not had a great year stat-wise. So basically Tebow got the nod over Spiller because he’s already a “super star.” Ridiculous. Fuck football, let’s all start following women’s volleyball. ChrisSimp, you win.

http://tailgatingtimes.com/uploads/WomensVolleyball.jpg
11JasonL on Dec 7, 2009 at 8:56 pm:

total horseshit.
if you’re on twitter, just use a hashtag: #heismanishorseshit
mutherfuckers
12Brian on Dec 7, 2009 at 9:01 pm:

Fair or unfair, a team’s record influences the vote. Suh has no shot. Neither does Tebow. I think it is a two player race between McCoy and Ingram anyway.

Spiller might have gotten an invite if he didn’t get shut down in the Carolina game.
13IM A MAN IM FORTY on Dec 7, 2009 at 9:07 pm:

Shut down? CJ had the flu and he returned a kick-off for a touchdown.

Folks are going ape shit over at the ESPN site for the Spiller omission. Just rename the fucking heisman trophy to, “BCS MVP… and/or the happy-go-grab-ass ribbon”.

Fuck the system. I’m sure Swofford was lighting up the phone lines trying to get Spiller a slot.
14dwight_clark87 on Dec 7, 2009 at 9:18 pm:

@13 -LOL! “grab-ass” haven’t heard that one in years.
15TigerSACK on Dec 7, 2009 at 9:34 pm:

Suh wasn’t even a thought entering last conference championship week. I guess this locks it up for McCoy. My thought… Suh got in by shutting down the Texas Offense, led by Colt McCoy. So the realism is that anyone who can shutdown Colt must be a top 5 heisman candidate.

My thoughts on CJ are biased no matter what I say. However, after looking at the stats Hallidega posted, no one needs my opinion the numbers don’t lie.
16Reed on Dec 7, 2009 at 9:54 pm:

You’re fucking kidding me, right? Votes aren’t due until tomorrow. They’ve already decided who goes?
17Tripp on Dec 7, 2009 at 10:19 pm:

Votes were actually due by 5 pm today.
18Willy Mac on Dec 7, 2009 at 10:19 pm:

They were due today at five I believe. What I can’t get my head around is I’m pretty sure that they can invite six players. Why leave him out?
19Trapper on Dec 7, 2009 at 11:06 pm:

Tebus is an SEC Golden God (except that’s idolatry, so no) who singlehandedly led the team most writers thought would win the BCS to a solid season, through his sheer will and saintly chastity. Sure finalist.

Suh is a bona fide destroyer of worlds, and the Heisman folks couldn’t omit him for fear of future testicular health.

Colt McCoy is named Colt! And he’s the QB of Tixas! That’s awesome!

Ingram is the only skill player on the probable BCS champs who merits consideration, so he’s in. Moreover, he didn’t shit the bed in his most recent game, unlike Colt!!1! and the Prophet of Gainesville, so he’ll probably win.

Gerhart is a stud white running back. Just as Cecil Rhodes collected zoological oddities for the British Museum, Heisman voters simply had to collect this rare specimen for the NYAC.

CJ Spiller? He’s just some freakishly talented guy on a mediocre team in a conference that the ESSEEESEE-fluffing CFB establishment has deemed to be sub-Sun Belt in quality. Who cares about him and his obscene numbers?
20GOCAMS on Dec 7, 2009 at 11:11 pm:

Total bullshit. I hope some crackhead steals the damn thing, cuts it up, and sells it for $5 cash at the scrap metal yard.
21flaact on Dec 8, 2009 at 12:28 am:

God this is just the icing on the cake of 10 days of football hell. What’s worse is next season just may prove how right we are about Spiller being deserving of the heisman. How much dropoff to you guys expect from Florida when Tebow leaves? Or Alabama when Ingram jets in a couple years? Or Texas when McCoy graduates (who is already much worse than their last heisman candidate at QB)? We know Alabama already has a fucking awesome backup RB and Florida has another spikey haired, smooth talking fuckstick lined up to play QB next year.

I can’t wait to see Andre Ellington try, and fail, to fill Spillers shoes, through no fault of his own cause Ellington is pretty damn good. With that bit of pessimism I shall retire to my cave and hibernate until next summer when it’s football season again. Dabo may not have inherited the bitch mentality from Bowden, but I know he has inherited one piece of the Bowden curse: the ability to make me believe that we will be awesome next season, and nothing will stand in our way. God damn you Dabo, why you gotta play me like that?
22Tom on Dec 8, 2009 at 1:11 am:

@2 – it is perfectly fair. Football is a game of teamwork, and racking up useless total yardage stats in losing efforts doesn’t make you Heisman worthy. The best players are on the successful teams because their consistent clutch performance makes their teams successful.

@21 – Ellington is a better runningback than Spiller. I just hope he gets the bulk of the carries over Harper.
23thedabokoolaid on Dec 8, 2009 at 2:10 am:

@22, disagree. the best players on the best teams CAN be Heisman worthy, but most of the time it is their talented teammates that help them along. To me, the best player is the player that can truly stand up and make a difference every single time he steps out on the field. It is a contest to see who the best player is, not who is the best player on the best team, and that’s where I feel the Heisman has gone wrong. It’s all about the spotlight and who’s the media darling, not the player who can single handily carry a team on his back if need be, the player that makes a difference, the player that plays his heart out and wants it the most. CJ Spiller may not be on a powerhouse team like Alabama or Florida, but he is by god the best player in college football today. No matter if we are 8-5 or 0-12, CJ Spiller is the best player and deserved at the very least an invite.
24Joe on Dec 8, 2009 at 7:57 am:

Ellington is the real deal. I just hope Harper learns how to run with the intensity Ellington runs with. Damn that would be crazy.
25Judge Jeff Davis on Dec 8, 2009 at 8:31 am:

@ 22: How is Spiller any less clutch than the rest of them? McCoy had his worst games in their biggest games (Oklahoma and Nebraska) and Ingram was totally ineffective against Auburn. The nature of the game is to put points on the board and CJ accounted for 21 TD’s, which was more than Ingram. Except for SC, Spiller had his best games in the biggest games (GT, Miami and TCU). He was all we had in the TCU and GT games that worked. It shouldn’t count against Spiller that his teammates can’t get it done. Gerhart delivered every week and despite the Auburn game Ingram should definitely be a finalist but McCoy and Tebow had defenses that saved the day when they couldn’t.

@24: Hopefully Ellington can fall right into line with Davis and Spiller. Harper can be really good when runs like the ox he is.
26Trapper on Dec 8, 2009 at 8:49 am:

I’m surprised how many people here willingly engage with blatant trolls.
27Love Truncheon on Dec 8, 2009 at 9:13 am:

CJ was an integral part of every Clemson win and almost single-handedly kept us in close losses (TCU, GT twice). On the biggest stage Clemson has played in in 20 years he ran for 230-some yards and scored 4 touchdowns…not sure what he’s supposed to do about our sieve of a defense. He did everything he possibly could have in that game. He played hurt and sick, he didn’t bolt for Florida when he could have, he didn’t take the money and run last year when he could have. The team success argument doesn’t hold water because Nebraska lost 3 regular season games and Stanford lost 4, including one to Wake Forest, both of which are comparable to what Clemson did in the regular season. His numbers, overall numbers, impact on the game, certainly say he deserves inclusion. College football has the best regular season of any sport and the most fucked up, least satisfying ending in EVERY WAY!
28true on Dec 8, 2009 at 9:24 am:

I’m baffled by Tebow. He’s not even the best player on his team this year, much less one of the top 5 in the country.

Face it folks, after seeing the BCS play out and now the Heisman selection, College Football isn’t about what actually happens on the field any more. Its about moolah. Which makes it a cooler version of professional wrestling or NASCAR.

I’d like to agree with Tom that Barry Sanders was not one of the best. His team sucked, and by extension, he sucked too. Totally overrated. If he’d been really good, he would have played for the 49ers or Cowboys teams that were always playing in the superbowl. *crazy talk*
29AParker on Dec 8, 2009 at 10:12 am:

Blatantly stolen from EDSBS.com but it reads this –

“If there were an amorphously defined award recognizing individual greatness in a team sport, one would assume he would win after singlehandedly driving Nebraska’s defense to brilliant heights despite no help from an offense with points AIDS. Oh, and CJ Spiller would be right there, too. We’re sure if that existed then they would invite both and award one of them this hypothetical award.”

Oh so true…so true
30Bill's Spy Crew on Dec 8, 2009 at 12:34 pm:

For me it just really boils down to …

Texas is undefeated and Colt’s numbers are great. But on the biggest stage, for a shot at a BCS title, he almost cost Texas the game. Take away Jordan Shipley from that team, and Texas isn’t ranked in the Top 5.

Gerhardt has 100 ish more carries than CJ. Give CJ 100 more carries, you might see 800 to 1000 more yards, and 10 more touchdowns, he’s that dynamic.

Ingram is more versatile than Gerhardt, and a balanced running back. Tough as nails, and deserves anything he gets. But at the end of the day, while you can’t go wrong with Ingram, CJ might be the most explosive athlete college football has ever seen.

And Tebow, well he has “the promise.” You know, that promise where “I’m going to take this team that won a national title 2 years ago, has the same players still, and we’re going to try really hard.” I’m sorry, there’s been nothing outstanding about Tim Tebow this year.
31true on Dec 8, 2009 at 1:44 pm:

@30 – “Give CJ 100 more carries, you might see 800 to 1000 more yards.” CJ could have had at least 50 more carries if he hadn’t had all those long receiving touch downs or the 4 kickoff returns and 1 punt return for touchdowns. But we all know receiving and special teams touchdowns don’t really count… unless you’re Rocket Ismail or Tim Brown.

And yes, i put CJ in the same category with Ishmael, Brown and Reggie Bush as most explosive players ever. There are some that simply have an altogether different level of talent and skill, and CJ is/was one of them.
32nc clemson fan on Dec 8, 2009 at 2:14 pm:

@31 I agree he was special and will be missed next year. I also want to belive we will do better going forward if and this is a big if we get production out of harper. Ellington will not be CJ and never will be but maybe he will become his own back and be productive.
33Sambo on Dec 8, 2009 at 3:15 pm:

I just read something that makes almost too much sense. B/c the Texas/Nebraska game was so close, everyone not pulling for Clemson and GT was watching that game. If Texas had blown out Nebraska, people would have switched over to the ACCCG and everyone would have seen Spiller’s insane performance and he would be going to NY.
34Willy Mac on Dec 8, 2009 at 3:30 pm:

I’m blaming it on Sambo. Ever since he started his weekly picks of the week, everything related to Clemson has gone into fallout.
35Bill's Spy Crew on Dec 8, 2009 at 3:59 pm:

@32 – I disagree, I think Harper’s had 2 years to learn behind James and CJ, while getting field work, and Ellington has outplayed him this year. Not to say Harper hasn’t played well. Andre will probably win the starting job in the spring and carry his production over into next season.
36nc clemson fan on Dec 8, 2009 at 4:35 pm:

@35 I agree harper has had 2 years but if we get any production out of him next year we can be better with having a big back when switching from ellington for a change of pace. I do think harper has had ample time as well to become a featured back but he has not showed he can be counted on. The biggest key though will be th oline
37Sambo on Dec 8, 2009 at 4:47 pm:

And I call Shenanigans on Willy Mac. Shenanigans!!!
38Joe on Dec 9, 2009 at 8:40 am:

@32,
Andre Ellington’s YPC this year was 7.4. Now I don’t know if the true freshman will be as dynamic as spiller on kick off returns and punt returns. However he will be more productive than CJ between the tackles.
39Love Truncheon on Dec 9, 2009 at 9:16 am:

Don’t forget that Roderick McDowell will be in the mix next year as well…very similar in stature and skills to Ellington.
40flacct on Dec 9, 2009 at 9:39 am:

@38

CJ Spiller averaged 7.3 YPC as a TRUE freshman with over twice as many carries as Ellington, and had 210 receiving yards compared to Ellington’s 55. No hate on Ellington, but shit gets tougher when everyone is gunning for you. Let’s see Ellington perform at the same level when he is the primary back and getting substantially more carries.
41Joe on Dec 9, 2009 at 1:53 pm:

@40, right, so I guess when you are the sole runningback on the field and you get the handoff, people aren’t realling gunning for you if your name isn’t CJ spiller.
Ellington is a better between the tackles runningback, and has the wide open speed, you will see.
42flaact on Dec 9, 2009 at 11:40 pm:

@41

That’s not the point I’m making. Ellington isn’t very big, yeah he plays bigger than his size, but I’m not so sure he can carry the ball 20 times a game with the same oomph he has when he only gets 7-10 carries a game. Spiller certainly couldn’t do it, and is bigger and a bit more talented than Ellington. I’m not doubting he is a better between the tackles runner, he is, but that is because he has a different running style than CJ, and isn’t able to break free on the sideline quite as effectively.

Ellington is going to be good, there is no doubt. But I’m not sold yet on him being Spiller part 2. In my opinion Ellington really needs Harper to man the fuck up and learn to find the hole and HIT THE MOTHER FUCKER. They could be a deadly duo if Harper could carry a good bit of the load effectively. Also I believe Ellington was a redshirt freshman this year.