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		<title>By: ichaseferalcats</title>
		<link>http://www.block-c.com/2009/10/06/willy-korn-in-waiting-the-non-extreme-argument/comment-page-1/#comment-14078</link>
		<dc:creator>ichaseferalcats</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 17:34:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ 32,  

Sorry Carly Simon.  I guess it was too much of an assumption to think I was included in your previous post since well I have constantly bashed the OL on &quot;here&quot; and I am a person.

@ 33,

What are you?  You are hilarious.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ 32,  </p>
<p>Sorry Carly Simon.  I guess it was too much of an assumption to think I was included in your previous post since well I have constantly bashed the OL on &#8220;here&#8221; and I am a person.</p>
<p>@ 33,</p>
<p>What are you?  You are hilarious.</p>
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		<title>By: PenthouseTiger</title>
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		<dc:creator>PenthouseTiger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 16:19:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@31, 32, anyone age 9 or younger on the board,

I know you are but what am I?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@31, 32, anyone age 9 or younger on the board,</p>
<p>I know you are but what am I?</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 16:10:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re so vain, I bet you think this song is about you...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re so vain, I bet you think this song is about you&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: ichaseferalcats</title>
		<link>http://www.block-c.com/2009/10/06/willy-korn-in-waiting-the-non-extreme-argument/comment-page-1/#comment-14073</link>
		<dc:creator>ichaseferalcats</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 15:12:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ 30,

Didn&#039;t say that was the OL&#039;s fault.  The OL has done better in some respects this year but we still miss way too many assignments and can&#039;t get a good enough push when we need it.  If your OL consisently can&#039;t convert short yardage, you just aren&#039;t going to do jack shit.  Not converting on QB sneaks on fourth and inches is the OL&#039;s fault.  

The main problem we are having is we can&#039;t execute consistently anywhere.  That is all on the coaches.  The OL and WR&#039;s our main weaknesses followed by QB, could all be put in better situations to succeed.

Actually read Swinney botched signalling in the last play, maybe he shouldn&#039;t be fucking signalling in the plays.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ 30,</p>
<p>Didn&#8217;t say that was the OL&#8217;s fault.  The OL has done better in some respects this year but we still miss way too many assignments and can&#8217;t get a good enough push when we need it.  If your OL consisently can&#8217;t convert short yardage, you just aren&#8217;t going to do jack shit.  Not converting on QB sneaks on fourth and inches is the OL&#8217;s fault.  </p>
<p>The main problem we are having is we can&#8217;t execute consistently anywhere.  That is all on the coaches.  The OL and WR&#8217;s our main weaknesses followed by QB, could all be put in better situations to succeed.</p>
<p>Actually read Swinney botched signalling in the last play, maybe he shouldn&#8217;t be fucking signalling in the plays.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
		<link>http://www.block-c.com/2009/10/06/willy-korn-in-waiting-the-non-extreme-argument/comment-page-1/#comment-14069</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 13:28:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BTW, you know how lots of people here love to blame the OL all the time, especially for that last sack of the Maryland game?

Swinney then turned his attention back to the Maryland game, and the sack of Kyle Parker that effectively ended any hopes of a Tiger comeback. Parker dropped back to pass, but lost a fumble after a linebacker came in untouched on a blitz, and Swinney said that there were two errors on the play that contributed to the fumble.

&quot;They brought two off the edge,&quot; Swinney said. &quot;It&#039;s a quick-game protection. You don&#039;t take a sack on a quick-game protection. There are two guys. One of them was going to come free, and our back should&#039;ve taken the inside guy. He took the outside guy. So we had a mistake there.

It&#039;s not the OL&#039;s fault.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW, you know how lots of people here love to blame the OL all the time, especially for that last sack of the Maryland game?</p>
<p>Swinney then turned his attention back to the Maryland game, and the sack of Kyle Parker that effectively ended any hopes of a Tiger comeback. Parker dropped back to pass, but lost a fumble after a linebacker came in untouched on a blitz, and Swinney said that there were two errors on the play that contributed to the fumble.</p>
<p>&#8220;They brought two off the edge,&#8221; Swinney said. &#8220;It&#8217;s a quick-game protection. You don&#8217;t take a sack on a quick-game protection. There are two guys. One of them was going to come free, and our back should&#8217;ve taken the inside guy. He took the outside guy. So we had a mistake there.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not the OL&#8217;s fault.</p>
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		<title>By: Sharp</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sharp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 16:51:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@23 - That&#039;s exactly what I&#039;m hearing. I&#039;ve heard through multiple sources that roughly 1/3 of the plays are being overruled by Dabo. If this is the case, damnit pick one person and let them run with it. Dabo should be concentrating on the overall game, not wasting his time analyzing every freaking down.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@23 &#8211; That&#8217;s exactly what I&#8217;m hearing. I&#8217;ve heard through multiple sources that roughly 1/3 of the plays are being overruled by Dabo. If this is the case, damnit pick one person and let them run with it. Dabo should be concentrating on the overall game, not wasting his time analyzing every freaking down.</p>
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		<title>By: ichaseferalcats</title>
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		<dc:creator>ichaseferalcats</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 15:28:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ 23,

I wonder to how much the Dabo/Napier two headed monster OCing has led to our struggles on offense.  Napier is a power running guy while Dabo is a spread guy.  With our offense having no identity, I think it is safe to say we are trying to be too many things.  This point has been reiterated on another site where an anecdote from an NFL scout said Clemson&#039;s defense was good enough to be in the top ten but that the offense seemed extremely overly complicated and had to direction.  We were told Spence&#039;s offense was too complicated but it seems Dabo/Napier&#039;s is more of the same in that respect.

Our strengths are TE&#039;s and RB&#039;s.  Even with our shitty OL, I&#039;d like to see if we just focused on I formation and two TE sets if they couldn&#039;t find some rhythm and thus success.  And if Napier is going to go down, let him go down with free reign over the offense.  I think it&#039;s too much for a head coach generally to get involved in play calling and even signaling in the plays.  Especially a coach like Dabo who doesn&#039;t have coordinator experience.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ 23,</p>
<p>I wonder to how much the Dabo/Napier two headed monster OCing has led to our struggles on offense.  Napier is a power running guy while Dabo is a spread guy.  With our offense having no identity, I think it is safe to say we are trying to be too many things.  This point has been reiterated on another site where an anecdote from an NFL scout said Clemson&#8217;s defense was good enough to be in the top ten but that the offense seemed extremely overly complicated and had to direction.  We were told Spence&#8217;s offense was too complicated but it seems Dabo/Napier&#8217;s is more of the same in that respect.</p>
<p>Our strengths are TE&#8217;s and RB&#8217;s.  Even with our shitty OL, I&#8217;d like to see if we just focused on I formation and two TE sets if they couldn&#8217;t find some rhythm and thus success.  And if Napier is going to go down, let him go down with free reign over the offense.  I think it&#8217;s too much for a head coach generally to get involved in play calling and even signaling in the plays.  Especially a coach like Dabo who doesn&#8217;t have coordinator experience.</p>
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		<title>By: ichaseferalcats</title>
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		<dc:creator>ichaseferalcats</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 15:13:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Korn needs to keep working at extreme handsignalling.  If he has the same playcalling, he can&#039;t make a third of the throws Parker has made this year.  

We don&#039;t have a QB issue at this time.  

You don&#039;t ask a redshirt freshman QB to win games for you - or at least you shouldn&#039;t if you hope to be successful with a young QB at the helm.

Parker hasn&#039;t played all that well at times.  Two games have been played in absolute fucking monsoons in which the only way we could move the ball was to ask him to throw low percentage down the field passes.  He has kept us in every game, he brought us back in the GT game.  He for all of his struggles, hasn&#039;t yet to have lost us one game.

Our receivers can&#039;t get open.  They can&#039;t catch.  They can&#039;t run block.  Those are things Parker can&#039;t control.  We have a very experienced corp. of TE&#039;s yet we seem to only throw to them when we are behind at the end of the game.  

Our playcalling is has been mediocore to muy terrible this season.  Why do we go 4 and 5 wide when our WR&#039;s suck and our line can&#039;t hold a block?  This isn&#039;t on Parker.

I will say Parker should be taking off more, using his legs to get first downs.  He has couple mechanical issues which tend to allow his throws to sail on him and/or drift off to the right.   Hell, against TCU he had no turnovers and didn&#039;t get sacked.  We ran the ball for 150 yards.  We didn&#039;t win because when we needed the right call and execution in the redzone, we couldn&#039;t get it.

I hate to keeping harping on it, but our OL is still the biggest issue here.  With a young QB, you have to be able to find a way to run the ball.  We can&#039;t convert 3rd and 1.  We can&#039;t convert 4th and inches.  Why are we constantly behind in yardage after first down?  Because we can&#039;t run the ball, we end up in third and longs.  No QB is going to be successful converting third and longs, especially a redshirt freshman.  In third and longs the defense has a major advantage because they basically know you have to throw the ball - all they have to do is sit back and defend a line.

Drops are demoralizing.  They are costly.  But there is nothing more deflating than when you need it most for you OL to be completely unable to make a push to get the tough yardage.  Outside of Texas Tech and Houston, pretty much every offense in the nation has to have a running game to be successful (or at least the threat of one).  We have had some success running between the 20&#039;s but in the redzone we have been atrociously bad. 

In many respects we have set up Parker for failure.  This offense&#039;s multiple inadequacies have forced us to put our hopes on someone who in the beginning of the year was supposed to be a game manager - make a few plays, don&#039;t turn the ball over, put up a few scores, and let the defense/special teams win the game.  Now we are asking him to put our offense on his back despite poor play calling, a bad OL and terrible WR&#039;s.  That makes no sense to me at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Korn needs to keep working at extreme handsignalling.  If he has the same playcalling, he can&#8217;t make a third of the throws Parker has made this year.  </p>
<p>We don&#8217;t have a QB issue at this time.  </p>
<p>You don&#8217;t ask a redshirt freshman QB to win games for you &#8211; or at least you shouldn&#8217;t if you hope to be successful with a young QB at the helm.</p>
<p>Parker hasn&#8217;t played all that well at times.  Two games have been played in absolute fucking monsoons in which the only way we could move the ball was to ask him to throw low percentage down the field passes.  He has kept us in every game, he brought us back in the GT game.  He for all of his struggles, hasn&#8217;t yet to have lost us one game.</p>
<p>Our receivers can&#8217;t get open.  They can&#8217;t catch.  They can&#8217;t run block.  Those are things Parker can&#8217;t control.  We have a very experienced corp. of TE&#8217;s yet we seem to only throw to them when we are behind at the end of the game.  </p>
<p>Our playcalling is has been mediocore to muy terrible this season.  Why do we go 4 and 5 wide when our WR&#8217;s suck and our line can&#8217;t hold a block?  This isn&#8217;t on Parker.</p>
<p>I will say Parker should be taking off more, using his legs to get first downs.  He has couple mechanical issues which tend to allow his throws to sail on him and/or drift off to the right.   Hell, against TCU he had no turnovers and didn&#8217;t get sacked.  We ran the ball for 150 yards.  We didn&#8217;t win because when we needed the right call and execution in the redzone, we couldn&#8217;t get it.</p>
<p>I hate to keeping harping on it, but our OL is still the biggest issue here.  With a young QB, you have to be able to find a way to run the ball.  We can&#8217;t convert 3rd and 1.  We can&#8217;t convert 4th and inches.  Why are we constantly behind in yardage after first down?  Because we can&#8217;t run the ball, we end up in third and longs.  No QB is going to be successful converting third and longs, especially a redshirt freshman.  In third and longs the defense has a major advantage because they basically know you have to throw the ball &#8211; all they have to do is sit back and defend a line.</p>
<p>Drops are demoralizing.  They are costly.  But there is nothing more deflating than when you need it most for you OL to be completely unable to make a push to get the tough yardage.  Outside of Texas Tech and Houston, pretty much every offense in the nation has to have a running game to be successful (or at least the threat of one).  We have had some success running between the 20&#8242;s but in the redzone we have been atrociously bad. </p>
<p>In many respects we have set up Parker for failure.  This offense&#8217;s multiple inadequacies have forced us to put our hopes on someone who in the beginning of the year was supposed to be a game manager &#8211; make a few plays, don&#8217;t turn the ball over, put up a few scores, and let the defense/special teams win the game.  Now we are asking him to put our offense on his back despite poor play calling, a bad OL and terrible WR&#8217;s.  That makes no sense to me at all.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 15:08:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ 24: I&#039;m not saying those are &#039;great&#039; accomplishments but it&#039;s better than what West did, why is this hard to figure out??  I&#039;m not saying we put him in the Ring of Honor or anything but bowl wins over Tennessee and Colorado are better than anything Tommy West did in the postseason. I&#039;m not arguing for Bowden; my whole point is that Dabo took over a program that has become accustomed to going to the postseason, finishing above .500, being on the so-called &quot;cusp&quot; - we had reached a ceiling with Bowden that was higher than it was when he took over for West after a 3-8 season and hadn&#039;t won a bowl game in 5 years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ 24: I&#8217;m not saying those are &#8216;great&#8217; accomplishments but it&#8217;s better than what West did, why is this hard to figure out??  I&#8217;m not saying we put him in the Ring of Honor or anything but bowl wins over Tennessee and Colorado are better than anything Tommy West did in the postseason. I&#8217;m not arguing for Bowden; my whole point is that Dabo took over a program that has become accustomed to going to the postseason, finishing above .500, being on the so-called &#8220;cusp&#8221; &#8211; we had reached a ceiling with Bowden that was higher than it was when he took over for West after a 3-8 season and hadn&#8217;t won a bowl game in 5 years.</p>
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		<title>By: WillyD</title>
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		<dc:creator>WillyD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 13:43:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Basically, you can talk all day about how it&#039;s just Dabo&#039;s first year, we knew OL and WR were suspect coming into the season, blah blah blah, but there&#039;s no excuse for losing to Maryland. If MTSU can beat the Terps, we can as well. Dabo is of course going to get more time, lest we become the Oakland Raiders, but that entire offensive staff should be on notice, particularly the Scotts and Powell.

I personally would rather see us pick on QB and stick with him, I think it fucks with a QB&#039;s confidence if he always has to look over his shoulder. I still think Parker is the overall better QB, but Korn might be worth giving a shot so you can get more plays out of the QB&#039;s legs. But if your gonna do it, just give Korn the damn start and let him play a whole game.

My solution to the WR dilemma- If Jacoby Ford is the only one worth a damn, then he should be the only one playing. Just play multiple TE&#039;s every down with Palmer and Taylor, hell, maybe it&#039;ll improve our running game.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Basically, you can talk all day about how it&#8217;s just Dabo&#8217;s first year, we knew OL and WR were suspect coming into the season, blah blah blah, but there&#8217;s no excuse for losing to Maryland. If MTSU can beat the Terps, we can as well. Dabo is of course going to get more time, lest we become the Oakland Raiders, but that entire offensive staff should be on notice, particularly the Scotts and Powell.</p>
<p>I personally would rather see us pick on QB and stick with him, I think it fucks with a QB&#8217;s confidence if he always has to look over his shoulder. I still think Parker is the overall better QB, but Korn might be worth giving a shot so you can get more plays out of the QB&#8217;s legs. But if your gonna do it, just give Korn the damn start and let him play a whole game.</p>
<p>My solution to the WR dilemma- If Jacoby Ford is the only one worth a damn, then he should be the only one playing. Just play multiple TE&#8217;s every down with Palmer and Taylor, hell, maybe it&#8217;ll improve our running game.</p>
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